today when i was on my way back home, i saw an ad about sabah al ahmed opening the new section or sector or department or wut ever the name is for the
الوقف الجعفري بوزارة الشؤون والاوقاف
and they actually had the name of the ministry on the right side and the name of the new "waqf" on the left side !! as if it was a new ministry or something !!
i know this is supposed to be a free country , but don't you think they're taking it TOO FAR ?! i mean i've never heard of "alwaqf alja3farii" in any other country !! well maybe Iran !! but we're not in IRAN !!!
P.S : shiite guys and gals plz dont take this personaly !
الوقف الجعفري بوزارة الشؤون والاوقاف
and they actually had the name of the ministry on the right side and the name of the new "waqf" on the left side !! as if it was a new ministry or something !!
i know this is supposed to be a free country , but don't you think they're taking it TOO FAR ?! i mean i've never heard of "alwaqf alja3farii" in any other country !! well maybe Iran !! but we're not in IRAN !!!
P.S : shiite guys and gals plz dont take this personaly !


maybe because here there are many laws that hold il ja3fareya back from doing waqF!
Posted by
Nooni |
8/12/05 12:43 AM
juddy abbott
maybe bcoz kuwait is an islamic country that follows prophet mohammed's (PBUH) path "sunnah" and actually having regulations on shee3ah in kuwait didnt stop them ! i've heard that they're making "7saineyat" in their own houses, there are 200 7seneyah in JAHARA !! IMAGINE !
tata botata
welcome to my blog... you know wuts this like ?
its like having bin laden "qaeda" and hassan nasrallah "hezbollah" in the same "house" .. extreme X extreme ...did you just say POSITIVE ?!! 0_o
Posted by
Mother Courage |
8/12/05 1:34 AM
correction
*regulations = restrictions
Posted by
Mother Courage |
8/12/05 1:35 AM
wala i think its fair , and its a good thing to discard el 6a2efeyya elli 3endena , o make things go smoothly .. and that mo 3ashan sewad 3yon el she3a , thats what i call politics .
Mother Courage : whats wrong in having 7seneyas in houses , my house is my territory i can do what ever i want .. right ?
no hard feeling guys please
Posted by
Emarket |
8/12/05 2:48 AM
mother c, i dont get it.. shesalfa why ru 'questioning' this? mn zeman ako el ma7kama el ja3fareya mo shay yedeed ya3ni.. sawoha jeha 7ekomeya mathalan so what (btw i honestly dont know abt this obviously im not there)
anyway, q8 isnt an islamic country lel mara el alf, el sha3b muslim okay shay thani hatha.. elmohem u said " that follows prophet mohammed's (PBUH) path "sunnah" and actually having regulations on shee3ah in kuwait didnt stop them "
which implies el shee3a dont follow sunat il rasool salla allah 3laih o aaleh ? .. if yes, then it ofcourse isnt true and a HUGE misconception (and if thats what u think i dont blame u sara7a)
and abt the 7saineyaat .. it doesnt need anything but a space to seat ppl and get someone to give a lecture abt el islam .. which again i dont blame u for not knowing or thinking otherwise, chenech tegoleen ako 200 3aza aw 200 3ers b man6aga :)
and its not like having sayid nasrallah and usama benlaaden in the same 'house' .. kelesh melesh ma yamshi el tashbeeh afa 3alaich bas..
especially we7na enta7acha 3an el q8, el mathaaheb el seniya ely mashya a'ematha daras'hom el imam ja3far.. so its nothing radical .. so its not "extreme X extreme"
would love to discuss thu, and i dont think anyone would take it personally :)) so do expand on the matter plz
Posted by
Temetwir |
8/12/05 11:19 PM
همم أنا شيعي و لست متعصب أو معصب فلا تعصبون عالكلام و الشرح الي بقوله
بالنسبة لمسألة وجود مذهب الشيعة بالكويت و اتباع 33% تقريبا من الكويتيين له فهية مسألة منتهية منذ زمن طويل
اذا هم موجودون , لكن هل لهم الحق في انشاء أوقاف خاصة بهم؟
الجواب هو نعم, لماذا؟
لأن الشيعة بشكل مبسط يختلفون عن السنة في الصلاة "شكليا و الزكاة و الميراث و بعض قوانين الأحوال الشخصية و بالطبع قوانين الوقف
لذلك تجدين مساجد منفصلة للشيعة و محكمة جعفرية تحكم بينهم حسب مذهبهم و لا أرى غرابة في ذلك
أيضا يحتاجون وقف خاص بهم حتى لا يظلموا, فهذا مذهبهم و الدستور يكفل للجميع ممارسة حريته في الشعائر و الأحكام الدينية
و هذا الأمر ليس له أي علاقة في حزب الله أو في الحسينيات أو في العنصرية أو في
سلطة الحكومة
الموضوع ديني بحت
نصيحة أخوية لكل من يقرأ, الرجاء البحث قبل الدخول و التذمر من هذه الأشياء وذلك للمحافظة على الموضوعية و الحياد انشالله
و الشكر الجزيل لكي يا مذر كورج
Posted by
Mohammad Al-Yousifi |
9/12/05 2:29 AM
مذر... طرحتي موضوع شوي حساس مابي اسوي نفسي مفتي في الشؤون الدينية بس باقول رايي... بكل صراحة اعتقد ان الوقف الجعفري شي عادي لان مثل ما تفضل الاخ كله مطقوق في اختلاف بين الشيعة و السينة في بعض الامور .... و هم نفس الشي عندنا في البحرين عندنا مجلسين واحد للاوقاف السنية و الثاني للاوقاف الجعفرية اذا مب غلطان :)
Posted by
متفرغ |
9/12/05 3:30 AM
hmmm i want to comment but since i couldnt not take it personal i will shut up :)
Posted by
Sowhat |
9/12/05 3:58 AM
sailor,
i meant they dont have permission to have 7saineyat in their houses ! which makes it illegal !
temetwir
frankly i have no idea about the differences between sina and shee3ah in kuwait, i just know that shee3ah praise e9a7abi 3li bin abi 6aleb ... anyways this isnt my point ! i just didnt like the name " alwaqf alja3farii" in CAPS and separating it from "Wazarat el awqaf" is a bit strange .. chena there is a new system comming up...you know ?!
kila ma6goog
thank you for making it a bit clearer. you just mentioned things i didnt have any idea about before.
and i did actually say its a free country !. honestly it just feels weird !
متفرغ
انا موقصدي اناقش الشيعه و السنه كمذاهب... بس هذا شي جديد علينا
نسبة الشيعه في البحرين كبيرة ... اما بالكويت فهي تشكل الأقليه
well atleast this is wut i thought !!
sowhat !
oh come on ! you know how much i like your comments. but if you dont feel like commenting then... alrighty =)
Posted by
Mother Courage |
9/12/05 8:47 PM
mother c, i dont blame u for not knowing .. and what u "do know" is incorrect am afraid ..
anyway, as i say elma7kama el ja3fereya mawjoda mn zeman wel madresa el ja3fereya gabel kanat mawjoda wayed mn ahal elq8 edresaw feha back in the day .. so there isnt a "new system" wala hum ya7zanoon.. mn senat yady (literally) w hal netham mawjood
again, ur thinking way outside the box le'ena u dont understand the differences between el math'hebain.. o from what u said u only knew, i can tell ena u didnt get it from the right sources.. bs dont worry its nothing new :))
Posted by
Temetwir |
9/12/05 9:11 PM
I think this kind of waqf will create more divisions rather than bridging people and relations..
but again, I honestly not for this Islamic movement..it is becoming too extreme..
Posted by
Babbler |
23/12/05 9:10 PM
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